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Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Cost of doing business

Screw 800. If I go over I go over. Could always get hit with a bolt of lightning.

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An Iraqi contractor who was supposed to take a bunch of classified documents to the dump was somehow misdirected. A New York Times reporter at an iraqi junkyard recognized them as the Haditha Massacre investigation reports. An attendant was burning them as fuel to cook a dinner of smoked carp.

Worth a read. It is no great news that innocent people get wacked in conflicts but the unusual attitude on the part of some soldiers and commanders is a bit strange, or maybe not. Of course I have never been a soldier. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Interesting take that what might have been viewed as provocation might have actually a case of poor eyesight amongst the Iraqi people.
"Iraqi civilians were being killed all the time. Maj. Gen. Steve Johnson, the commander of American forces in Anbar, in his own testimony, described it as “a cost of doing business.”"
“When a car doesn’t stop, it crosses the trigger line, Marines engage and, yes, sir, there are people inside the car that are killed that have nothing to do with it,” Sgt. Maj. Edward T. Sax. “I had Marines shoot children in cars and deal with the Marines individually one on one about it because they have a hard time dealing with that.”“It is one thing to kill an insurgent in a head-on fight,” Sergeant Major Sax testified. “It is a whole different thing — and I hate to say it, the way we are raised in America — to injure a female or injure a child or in the worse case, kill a female or kill a child.”
They could not understand why so many Iraqis just did not stop at checkpoints and speculated that it was because of illiteracy or poor eyesight.
“They don’t have glasses and stuff,” Col. John Ledoux said. “It really makes you wonder because some of the things that they would do just to keep coming. You know, it’s hard to imagine they would just keep coming, but sometimes they do.”
That morning, a military convoy of four vehicles was heading to an outpost in Haditha when one of the vehicles was hit by a roadside bomb.
Several Marines got out to attend to the wounded, including one who eventually died, while others looked for insurgents who might have set off the bomb. Within a few hours 24 Iraqis — including a 76-year-old man and children between the ages of 3 and 15 — were killed, many inside of their homes.
Townspeople contended that the Marines overreacted to the attack and shot civilians, only one of whom was armed. The Marines said they thought they were under attack.
When the initial reports arrived saying more than 20 civilians had been killed in Haditha, the Marines receiving them said they were not surprised by the high civilian death toll.
Chief Warrant Officer K. R. Norwood, who received reports from the field on the day of the killings and briefed commanders on them, testified that 20 dead civilians was not unusual.
“I meant, it wasn’t remarkable, based off of the area I wouldn’t say remarkable, sir,” Mr. Norwood said. “And that is just my definition. Not that I think one life is not remarkable, it’s just —”
General Johnson, the commander of American forces in Anbar Province, said he did not feel compelled to go back and examine the events because they were part of a continuing pattern of civilian deaths.
“It happened all the time, not necessarily in MNF-West all the time, but throughout the whole country,” General Johnson testified, using a military abbreviation for allied forces in western Iraq.
“So, you know, maybe — I guess maybe if I was sitting here at Quantico and heard that 15 civilians were killed I would have been surprised and shocked and gone — done more to look into it,” he testified, referring to Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia. “But at that point in time, I felt that was — had been, for whatever reason, part of that engagement and felt that it was just a cost of doing business on that particular engagement.”

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More tales of collateral damage from the good folks at Blackwater Gawker received the information finally from its FOIA request. A compendium and document dump of United States private merc's and contractor's shootings of Iraqi civilians.

 The State Department determined that shooting at judges for driving too fast in their own country is "within the established Department of State policy for escalation of force."

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